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I'm trying to understand how Transaction IDs are compared in Postgres



I have a two questions




  1. Transaction IDs (XIDs) are represented in 32 bits. Therefore there can be a maximum of 4,294,967,296 XIDs. Why is a wraparound possible at two billion XIDs?


  2. How are XIDs compared?



Consider that there are only 3 bits to represent XIDs allowing the following values for XID - 0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7.



Before a wraparound XIDs can be simply compared x < y.



However after a wraparound, say the last XID was 7 and the next XID would be 1. How will these be compared to establish that XID 1 is greater than XID 7 (to allow visibility of the row with xmin as 7)



In my research I came across the following but I'm at a loss how the comparison works



From the Postgres docs




Normal XIDs are compared using modulo-2^32 arithmetic. This means that for every normal XID, there are two billion XIDs that are “older” and two billion that are “newer”; another way to say it is that the normal XID space is circular with no endpoint




From a post by Tom Lane




Ordered comparisons on XIDs are no longer simply "x < y", but need to be expressed as a macro. We consider x < y if (y - x) % WRAPLIMIT < WRAPLIMIT/2.
This comparison will work as long as the range of interesting XIDs
never exceeds WRAPLIMIT/2










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    I'm trying to understand how Transaction IDs are compared in Postgres



    I have a two questions




    1. Transaction IDs (XIDs) are represented in 32 bits. Therefore there can be a maximum of 4,294,967,296 XIDs. Why is a wraparound possible at two billion XIDs?


    2. How are XIDs compared?



    Consider that there are only 3 bits to represent XIDs allowing the following values for XID - 0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7.



    Before a wraparound XIDs can be simply compared x < y.



    However after a wraparound, say the last XID was 7 and the next XID would be 1. How will these be compared to establish that XID 1 is greater than XID 7 (to allow visibility of the row with xmin as 7)



    In my research I came across the following but I'm at a loss how the comparison works



    From the Postgres docs




    Normal XIDs are compared using modulo-2^32 arithmetic. This means that for every normal XID, there are two billion XIDs that are “older” and two billion that are “newer”; another way to say it is that the normal XID space is circular with no endpoint




    From a post by Tom Lane




    Ordered comparisons on XIDs are no longer simply "x < y", but need to be expressed as a macro. We consider x < y if (y - x) % WRAPLIMIT < WRAPLIMIT/2.
    This comparison will work as long as the range of interesting XIDs
    never exceeds WRAPLIMIT/2










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      I'm trying to understand how Transaction IDs are compared in Postgres



      I have a two questions




      1. Transaction IDs (XIDs) are represented in 32 bits. Therefore there can be a maximum of 4,294,967,296 XIDs. Why is a wraparound possible at two billion XIDs?


      2. How are XIDs compared?



      Consider that there are only 3 bits to represent XIDs allowing the following values for XID - 0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7.



      Before a wraparound XIDs can be simply compared x < y.



      However after a wraparound, say the last XID was 7 and the next XID would be 1. How will these be compared to establish that XID 1 is greater than XID 7 (to allow visibility of the row with xmin as 7)



      In my research I came across the following but I'm at a loss how the comparison works



      From the Postgres docs




      Normal XIDs are compared using modulo-2^32 arithmetic. This means that for every normal XID, there are two billion XIDs that are “older” and two billion that are “newer”; another way to say it is that the normal XID space is circular with no endpoint




      From a post by Tom Lane




      Ordered comparisons on XIDs are no longer simply "x < y", but need to be expressed as a macro. We consider x < y if (y - x) % WRAPLIMIT < WRAPLIMIT/2.
      This comparison will work as long as the range of interesting XIDs
      never exceeds WRAPLIMIT/2










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      I'm trying to understand how Transaction IDs are compared in Postgres



      I have a two questions




      1. Transaction IDs (XIDs) are represented in 32 bits. Therefore there can be a maximum of 4,294,967,296 XIDs. Why is a wraparound possible at two billion XIDs?


      2. How are XIDs compared?



      Consider that there are only 3 bits to represent XIDs allowing the following values for XID - 0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7.



      Before a wraparound XIDs can be simply compared x < y.



      However after a wraparound, say the last XID was 7 and the next XID would be 1. How will these be compared to establish that XID 1 is greater than XID 7 (to allow visibility of the row with xmin as 7)



      In my research I came across the following but I'm at a loss how the comparison works



      From the Postgres docs




      Normal XIDs are compared using modulo-2^32 arithmetic. This means that for every normal XID, there are two billion XIDs that are “older” and two billion that are “newer”; another way to say it is that the normal XID space is circular with no endpoint




      From a post by Tom Lane




      Ordered comparisons on XIDs are no longer simply "x < y", but need to be expressed as a macro. We consider x < y if (y - x) % WRAPLIMIT < WRAPLIMIT/2.
      This comparison will work as long as the range of interesting XIDs
      never exceeds WRAPLIMIT/2








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