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I'm making a character, and this part always had me confused, so a friend helped me but never explained.

When you do your weapon damage, like 1d12 + 4, you use your Strength modifier for the damage bonus of 4. But what ability do you use for javelins - is it Dexterity or Strength?

dnd-5e weapons damage ability-scores

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I'm making a character, and this part always had me confused, so a friend helped me but never explained.

When you do your weapon damage, like 1d12 + 4, you use your Strength modifier for the damage bonus of 4. But what ability do you use for javelins - is it Dexterity or Strength?

dnd-5e weapons damage ability-scores

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I'm making a character, and this part always had me confused, so a friend helped me but never explained.

When you do your weapon damage, like 1d12 + 4, you use your Strength modifier for the damage bonus of 4. But what ability do you use for javelins - is it Dexterity or Strength?

dnd-5e weapons damage ability-scores

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You use strength

This is spelled out in the Basic Rules where it describes the Thrown weapon property (emphasis mine):

If a weapon has the thrown property, you can throw the weapon to make a ranged attack. If the weapon is a melee weapon, you use the same ability modifier for that attack roll and damage roll that you would use for a melee attack with the weapon.

The modifier you use for a melee attack with a javelin is strength (can also be found in the Basic Rules in the Combat section):

Ability Modifier. The ability modifier used for a melee weapon attack is Strength

Since you would have been making a melee weapon attack with Strength, the Thrown property causes you to continue to use Strength, even though it's a ranged attack in this instance.

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  I found that the last quote is actually the source of confusion, since the sentence said "melee weapon attack", but you are making ranged attack with the weapon. I suggest removing it completely and leave the Thrown weapon property to answer the question
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  @Vylix I'm more worried that a person may not know where to find the rule for what to use with a melee attack in general. I added a clarifying paragraph instead,
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  It took us a few months into our 5e sessions in 2014 to grok that the jav used str for damage and hit boost. Not an uncommon issue when coming from other editions.
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Javelins use Strength.

Basically, Strength is the ability you use for calculating hit/damage, unless otherwise specified. For example, the Monk can use their Strength, or Dexterity, as they see fit:

You can use Dexterity instead of Strength for the attack and damage rolls of your unarmed strikes and monk weapons.

Source

Or the finesse property, again allows you to use Strength, or Dex (the dagger, and darts have this property, for example):

Finesse. When making an attack with a finesse weapon, you use your choice of your Strength or Dexterity modifier for the attack and damage rolls. You must use the same modifier for both rolls.

Source

The important thing to differentiate is that Ranged weapons use Dex, and Thrown weapons use Strength (unless they have the "Finesse" property, as explained above).

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You use strength

This is spelled out in the Basic Rules where it describes the Thrown weapon property (emphasis mine):

If a weapon has the thrown property, you can throw the weapon to make a ranged attack. If the weapon is a melee weapon, you use the same ability modifier for that attack roll and damage roll that you would use for a melee attack with the weapon.

The modifier you use for a melee attack with a javelin is strength (can also be found in the Basic Rules in the Combat section):

Ability Modifier. The ability modifier used for a melee weapon attack is Strength

Since you would have been making a melee weapon attack with Strength, the Thrown property causes you to continue to use Strength, even though it's a ranged attack in this instance.

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edited 17 mins ago

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  I found that the last quote is actually the source of confusion, since the sentence said "melee weapon attack", but you are making ranged attack with the weapon. I suggest removing it completely and leave the Thrown weapon property to answer the question
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  @Vylix I'm more worried that a person may not know where to find the rule for what to use with a melee attack in general. I added a clarifying paragraph instead,
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  It took us a few months into our 5e sessions in 2014 to grok that the jav used str for damage and hit boost. Not an uncommon issue when coming from other editions.
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5

$begingroup$

You use strength

This is spelled out in the Basic Rules where it describes the Thrown weapon property (emphasis mine):

If a weapon has the thrown property, you can throw the weapon to make a ranged attack. If the weapon is a melee weapon, you use the same ability modifier for that attack roll and damage roll that you would use for a melee attack with the weapon.

The modifier you use for a melee attack with a javelin is strength (can also be found in the Basic Rules in the Combat section):

Ability Modifier. The ability modifier used for a melee weapon attack is Strength

Since you would have been making a melee weapon attack with Strength, the Thrown property causes you to continue to use Strength, even though it's a ranged attack in this instance.

share|improve this answer

edited 17 mins ago

answered 1 hour ago

David CoffronDavid Coffron

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  I found that the last quote is actually the source of confusion, since the sentence said "melee weapon attack", but you are making ranged attack with the weapon. I suggest removing it completely and leave the Thrown weapon property to answer the question
  $endgroup$
  – Vylix
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  1
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
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  @Vylix I'm more worried that a person may not know where to find the rule for what to use with a melee attack in general. I added a clarifying paragraph instead,
  $endgroup$
  – David Coffron
  16 mins ago
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  $begingroup$
  It took us a few months into our 5e sessions in 2014 to grok that the jav used str for damage and hit boost. Not an uncommon issue when coming from other editions.
  $endgroup$
  – KorvinStarmast
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add a comment | 

$begingroup$

You use strength

This is spelled out in the Basic Rules where it describes the Thrown weapon property (emphasis mine):

If a weapon has the thrown property, you can throw the weapon to make a ranged attack. If the weapon is a melee weapon, you use the same ability modifier for that attack roll and damage roll that you would use for a melee attack with the weapon.

The modifier you use for a melee attack with a javelin is strength (can also be found in the Basic Rules in the Combat section):

Ability Modifier. The ability modifier used for a melee weapon attack is Strength

Since you would have been making a melee weapon attack with Strength, the Thrown property causes you to continue to use Strength, even though it's a ranged attack in this instance.

share|improve this answer

edited 17 mins ago

answered 1 hour ago

David CoffronDavid Coffron

36.9k3124256

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edited 17 mins ago

answered 1 hour ago

David CoffronDavid Coffron

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answered 1 hour ago

David CoffronDavid Coffron

36.9k3124256

answered 1 hour ago

David CoffronDavid Coffron

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5

$begingroup$

Javelins use Strength.

Basically, Strength is the ability you use for calculating hit/damage, unless otherwise specified. For example, the Monk can use their Strength, or Dexterity, as they see fit:

You can use Dexterity instead of Strength for the attack and damage rolls of your unarmed strikes and monk weapons.

Source

Or the finesse property, again allows you to use Strength, or Dex (the dagger, and darts have this property, for example):

Finesse. When making an attack with a finesse weapon, you use your choice of your Strength or Dexterity modifier for the attack and damage rolls. You must use the same modifier for both rolls.

Source

The important thing to differentiate is that Ranged weapons use Dex, and Thrown weapons use Strength (unless they have the "Finesse" property, as explained above).

share|improve this answer

edited 4 mins ago

answered 1 hour ago

BenBen

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5

$begingroup$

Javelins use Strength.

Basically, Strength is the ability you use for calculating hit/damage, unless otherwise specified. For example, the Monk can use their Strength, or Dexterity, as they see fit:

You can use Dexterity instead of Strength for the attack and damage rolls of your unarmed strikes and monk weapons.

Source

Or the finesse property, again allows you to use Strength, or Dex (the dagger, and darts have this property, for example):

Finesse. When making an attack with a finesse weapon, you use your choice of your Strength or Dexterity modifier for the attack and damage rolls. You must use the same modifier for both rolls.

Source

The important thing to differentiate is that Ranged weapons use Dex, and Thrown weapons use Strength (unless they have the "Finesse" property, as explained above).

share|improve this answer

edited 4 mins ago

answered 1 hour ago

BenBen

10.9k1567135

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$begingroup$

Javelins use Strength.

Basically, Strength is the ability you use for calculating hit/damage, unless otherwise specified. For example, the Monk can use their Strength, or Dexterity, as they see fit:

You can use Dexterity instead of Strength for the attack and damage rolls of your unarmed strikes and monk weapons.

Source

Or the finesse property, again allows you to use Strength, or Dex (the dagger, and darts have this property, for example):

Finesse. When making an attack with a finesse weapon, you use your choice of your Strength or Dexterity modifier for the attack and damage rolls. You must use the same modifier for both rolls.

Source

The important thing to differentiate is that Ranged weapons use Dex, and Thrown weapons use Strength (unless they have the "Finesse" property, as explained above).

share|improve this answer

edited 4 mins ago

answered 1 hour ago

BenBen

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