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Let the cyclic group have 6 elements and be denoted as $G = {1, a, a^2, a^3, a^4, a^5}$ where $a^6 = 1$.



Besides the trivial subgroup 1 and the entire subgroup G, my textbook says there are only two other subgroups, ${1, a^2, a^4}$ and ${1, a^3}$.



Why isnt ${1, a^5}$ a subgroup? Is it because $a^5$ has no inverse? If so, then what is the inverse of $a^3$?





There should be an element, $b$ such that $a^3 cdot b = 1$. The only reasoning I can think of is that if $b = a^3$, then $a^3 cdot a^3 = a^6 = 1$ only because $a^6 =1$ was explicitly stated.



If $a^5 cdot b = 1$ is true, then $b$ would have to be $a^{-5}$ or $a^{10}$, where it is explicitly stated that $a^{10} = 1$ as well.



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    The inverse of $a^3$ is itself ($a^3$). The inverse of $a^5$ is $a$.
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    why? Could you help me understand how you got to that conclusion?
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    ${1,a^5}$ is not a subgroup because it is not closed; it does not contain $a^5a^5=a^{10}=a^4$
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  • $begingroup$
    The inverse of $a^5$ is $a$ because $a^5cdot a = 1$ (since $a^5cdot a = a^6$, which we are told is $1$).
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$begingroup$


Let the cyclic group have 6 elements and be denoted as $G = {1, a, a^2, a^3, a^4, a^5}$ where $a^6 = 1$.



Besides the trivial subgroup 1 and the entire subgroup G, my textbook says there are only two other subgroups, ${1, a^2, a^4}$ and ${1, a^3}$.



Why isnt ${1, a^5}$ a subgroup? Is it because $a^5$ has no inverse? If so, then what is the inverse of $a^3$?





There should be an element, $b$ such that $a^3 cdot b = 1$. The only reasoning I can think of is that if $b = a^3$, then $a^3 cdot a^3 = a^6 = 1$ only because $a^6 =1$ was explicitly stated.



If $a^5 cdot b = 1$ is true, then $b$ would have to be $a^{-5}$ or $a^{10}$, where it is explicitly stated that $a^{10} = 1$ as well.



Is my thought process correct?










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  • $begingroup$
    The inverse of $a^3$ is itself ($a^3$). The inverse of $a^5$ is $a$.
    $endgroup$
    – Minus One-Twelfth
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  • $begingroup$
    why? Could you help me understand how you got to that conclusion?
    $endgroup$
    – Evan Kim
    2 hours ago






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    $begingroup$
    ${1,a^5}$ is not a subgroup because it is not closed; it does not contain $a^5a^5=a^{10}=a^4$
    $endgroup$
    – J. W. Tanner
    2 hours ago












  • $begingroup$
    The inverse of $a^5$ is $a$ because $a^5cdot a = 1$ (since $a^5cdot a = a^6$, which we are told is $1$).
    $endgroup$
    – Minus One-Twelfth
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$begingroup$


Let the cyclic group have 6 elements and be denoted as $G = {1, a, a^2, a^3, a^4, a^5}$ where $a^6 = 1$.



Besides the trivial subgroup 1 and the entire subgroup G, my textbook says there are only two other subgroups, ${1, a^2, a^4}$ and ${1, a^3}$.



Why isnt ${1, a^5}$ a subgroup? Is it because $a^5$ has no inverse? If so, then what is the inverse of $a^3$?





There should be an element, $b$ such that $a^3 cdot b = 1$. The only reasoning I can think of is that if $b = a^3$, then $a^3 cdot a^3 = a^6 = 1$ only because $a^6 =1$ was explicitly stated.



If $a^5 cdot b = 1$ is true, then $b$ would have to be $a^{-5}$ or $a^{10}$, where it is explicitly stated that $a^{10} = 1$ as well.



Is my thought process correct?










share|cite|improve this question











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Let the cyclic group have 6 elements and be denoted as $G = {1, a, a^2, a^3, a^4, a^5}$ where $a^6 = 1$.



Besides the trivial subgroup 1 and the entire subgroup G, my textbook says there are only two other subgroups, ${1, a^2, a^4}$ and ${1, a^3}$.



Why isnt ${1, a^5}$ a subgroup? Is it because $a^5$ has no inverse? If so, then what is the inverse of $a^3$?





There should be an element, $b$ such that $a^3 cdot b = 1$. The only reasoning I can think of is that if $b = a^3$, then $a^3 cdot a^3 = a^6 = 1$ only because $a^6 =1$ was explicitly stated.



If $a^5 cdot b = 1$ is true, then $b$ would have to be $a^{-5}$ or $a^{10}$, where it is explicitly stated that $a^{10} = 1$ as well.



Is my thought process correct?







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  • $begingroup$
    The inverse of $a^3$ is itself ($a^3$). The inverse of $a^5$ is $a$.
    $endgroup$
    – Minus One-Twelfth
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    why? Could you help me understand how you got to that conclusion?
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    $begingroup$
    ${1,a^5}$ is not a subgroup because it is not closed; it does not contain $a^5a^5=a^{10}=a^4$
    $endgroup$
    – J. W. Tanner
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  • $begingroup$
    The inverse of $a^5$ is $a$ because $a^5cdot a = 1$ (since $a^5cdot a = a^6$, which we are told is $1$).
    $endgroup$
    – Minus One-Twelfth
    1 hour ago


















  • $begingroup$
    The inverse of $a^3$ is itself ($a^3$). The inverse of $a^5$ is $a$.
    $endgroup$
    – Minus One-Twelfth
    2 hours ago












  • $begingroup$
    why? Could you help me understand how you got to that conclusion?
    $endgroup$
    – Evan Kim
    2 hours ago






  • 2




    $begingroup$
    ${1,a^5}$ is not a subgroup because it is not closed; it does not contain $a^5a^5=a^{10}=a^4$
    $endgroup$
    – J. W. Tanner
    2 hours ago












  • $begingroup$
    The inverse of $a^5$ is $a$ because $a^5cdot a = 1$ (since $a^5cdot a = a^6$, which we are told is $1$).
    $endgroup$
    – Minus One-Twelfth
    1 hour ago
















$begingroup$
The inverse of $a^3$ is itself ($a^3$). The inverse of $a^5$ is $a$.
$endgroup$
– Minus One-Twelfth
2 hours ago






$begingroup$
The inverse of $a^3$ is itself ($a^3$). The inverse of $a^5$ is $a$.
$endgroup$
– Minus One-Twelfth
2 hours ago














$begingroup$
why? Could you help me understand how you got to that conclusion?
$endgroup$
– Evan Kim
2 hours ago




$begingroup$
why? Could you help me understand how you got to that conclusion?
$endgroup$
– Evan Kim
2 hours ago




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$begingroup$
${1,a^5}$ is not a subgroup because it is not closed; it does not contain $a^5a^5=a^{10}=a^4$
$endgroup$
– J. W. Tanner
2 hours ago






$begingroup$
${1,a^5}$ is not a subgroup because it is not closed; it does not contain $a^5a^5=a^{10}=a^4$
$endgroup$
– J. W. Tanner
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$begingroup$
The inverse of $a^5$ is $a$ because $a^5cdot a = 1$ (since $a^5cdot a = a^6$, which we are told is $1$).
$endgroup$
– Minus One-Twelfth
1 hour ago




$begingroup$
The inverse of $a^5$ is $a$ because $a^5cdot a = 1$ (since $a^5cdot a = a^6$, which we are told is $1$).
$endgroup$
– Minus One-Twelfth
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$[1,a^5] $ is not a subgroup because $a^5cdot a^5=a^4$ which is not in the set $[1,a^5]$



But in a subgroup , with two elements $a,b$ , the product $ab$ must be in the subgroup as well.






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    $lbrace 1, a^5 rbrace$ is not a subgroup because
    $$a^5 . a^5 = a^4$$
    is not an element of $lbrace 1, a^5 rbrace$. So $lbrace 1, a^5 rbrace$ is not stable for the intern law of the group.






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      Since nobody said it I'll also add that we know from the Fundamental Theorem of Cyclic Groups that for a finite cyclic group of order $n$, every subgroup's order is a divisor of $n$, and there is exactly one subgroup for each divisor. So to find the number of cyclic groups for a group of order $n$, just count the divisors of $n$. Here there are $4$ divisors of $6$, and so these must be all the subgroups.



      It is also true that if $a$ is an element of order $n$ in a group and $k$ is a positive integer. Then $langle a^k rangle = langle a^{gcd(n,k)} rangle$. Where $langle a rangle$ denotes the group generated by $a$. Since $gcd(5,6) = 1$, we know that the group generated by $a^5$ is the same as the group generated by $a$.






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        Hint: Prove that subgroups of cyclic groups are themselves cyclic. Then use Lagrange's Theorem.





        To address your misunderstanding: if $gin H$ for some $Hle G$, then all powers of $g$ are in $H$.






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        $[1,a^5] $ is not a subgroup because $a^5cdot a^5=a^4$ which is not in the set $[1,a^5]$



        But in a subgroup , with two elements $a,b$ , the product $ab$ must be in the subgroup as well.






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          $[1,a^5] $ is not a subgroup because $a^5cdot a^5=a^4$ which is not in the set $[1,a^5]$



          But in a subgroup , with two elements $a,b$ , the product $ab$ must be in the subgroup as well.






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            $[1,a^5] $ is not a subgroup because $a^5cdot a^5=a^4$ which is not in the set $[1,a^5]$



            But in a subgroup , with two elements $a,b$ , the product $ab$ must be in the subgroup as well.






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            $[1,a^5] $ is not a subgroup because $a^5cdot a^5=a^4$ which is not in the set $[1,a^5]$



            But in a subgroup , with two elements $a,b$ , the product $ab$ must be in the subgroup as well.







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                $lbrace 1, a^5 rbrace$ is not a subgroup because
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                  $lbrace 1, a^5 rbrace$ is not a subgroup because
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                    $lbrace 1, a^5 rbrace$ is not a subgroup because
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                    $lbrace 1, a^5 rbrace$ is not a subgroup because
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                    is not an element of $lbrace 1, a^5 rbrace$. So $lbrace 1, a^5 rbrace$ is not stable for the intern law of the group.







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                        $begingroup$

                        Since nobody said it I'll also add that we know from the Fundamental Theorem of Cyclic Groups that for a finite cyclic group of order $n$, every subgroup's order is a divisor of $n$, and there is exactly one subgroup for each divisor. So to find the number of cyclic groups for a group of order $n$, just count the divisors of $n$. Here there are $4$ divisors of $6$, and so these must be all the subgroups.



                        It is also true that if $a$ is an element of order $n$ in a group and $k$ is a positive integer. Then $langle a^k rangle = langle a^{gcd(n,k)} rangle$. Where $langle a rangle$ denotes the group generated by $a$. Since $gcd(5,6) = 1$, we know that the group generated by $a^5$ is the same as the group generated by $a$.






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                          $begingroup$

                          Since nobody said it I'll also add that we know from the Fundamental Theorem of Cyclic Groups that for a finite cyclic group of order $n$, every subgroup's order is a divisor of $n$, and there is exactly one subgroup for each divisor. So to find the number of cyclic groups for a group of order $n$, just count the divisors of $n$. Here there are $4$ divisors of $6$, and so these must be all the subgroups.



                          It is also true that if $a$ is an element of order $n$ in a group and $k$ is a positive integer. Then $langle a^k rangle = langle a^{gcd(n,k)} rangle$. Where $langle a rangle$ denotes the group generated by $a$. Since $gcd(5,6) = 1$, we know that the group generated by $a^5$ is the same as the group generated by $a$.






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                            $begingroup$

                            Since nobody said it I'll also add that we know from the Fundamental Theorem of Cyclic Groups that for a finite cyclic group of order $n$, every subgroup's order is a divisor of $n$, and there is exactly one subgroup for each divisor. So to find the number of cyclic groups for a group of order $n$, just count the divisors of $n$. Here there are $4$ divisors of $6$, and so these must be all the subgroups.



                            It is also true that if $a$ is an element of order $n$ in a group and $k$ is a positive integer. Then $langle a^k rangle = langle a^{gcd(n,k)} rangle$. Where $langle a rangle$ denotes the group generated by $a$. Since $gcd(5,6) = 1$, we know that the group generated by $a^5$ is the same as the group generated by $a$.






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                            Since nobody said it I'll also add that we know from the Fundamental Theorem of Cyclic Groups that for a finite cyclic group of order $n$, every subgroup's order is a divisor of $n$, and there is exactly one subgroup for each divisor. So to find the number of cyclic groups for a group of order $n$, just count the divisors of $n$. Here there are $4$ divisors of $6$, and so these must be all the subgroups.



                            It is also true that if $a$ is an element of order $n$ in a group and $k$ is a positive integer. Then $langle a^k rangle = langle a^{gcd(n,k)} rangle$. Where $langle a rangle$ denotes the group generated by $a$. Since $gcd(5,6) = 1$, we know that the group generated by $a^5$ is the same as the group generated by $a$.







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                                Hint: Prove that subgroups of cyclic groups are themselves cyclic. Then use Lagrange's Theorem.





                                To address your misunderstanding: if $gin H$ for some $Hle G$, then all powers of $g$ are in $H$.






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                                Hint: Prove that subgroups of cyclic groups are themselves cyclic. Then use Lagrange's Theorem.





                                To address your misunderstanding: if $gin H$ for some $Hle G$, then all powers of $g$ are in $H$.






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                                Hint: Prove that subgroups of cyclic groups are themselves cyclic. Then use Lagrange's Theorem.





                                To address your misunderstanding: if $gin H$ for some $Hle G$, then all powers of $g$ are in $H$.






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                                Hint: Prove that subgroups of cyclic groups are themselves cyclic. Then use Lagrange's Theorem.





                                To address your misunderstanding: if $gin H$ for some $Hle G$, then all powers of $g$ are in $H$.







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