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From Basho
蓮池や折らでそのまま玉祭
I have the impression that 折らで would be 折らなで without ない
If that’s the case is it an artistic choice or some obscure grammar?
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From Basho
蓮池や折らでそのまま玉祭
I have the impression that 折らで would be 折らなで without ない
If that’s the case is it an artistic choice or some obscure grammar?
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From Basho
蓮池や折らでそのまま玉祭
I have the impression that 折らで would be 折らなで without ない
If that’s the case is it an artistic choice or some obscure grammar?
grammar classical-japanese literature
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From Basho
蓮池や折らでそのまま玉祭
I have the impression that 折らで would be 折らなで without ない
If that’s the case is it an artistic choice or some obscure grammar?
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grammar classical-japanese literature
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In classical Japanese, で after an irrealis-form (未然形) means ないで in modern Japanese. So 折らで means 折らないで or "without snapping off".
で
接続助詞
《接続》活用語の未然形に付く。〔打消の接続〕…ないで。…ずに。
This で is surviving as part of ならでは.
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In classical Japanese, で after an irrealis-form (未然形) means ないで in modern Japanese. So 折らで means 折らないで or "without snapping off".
で
接続助詞
《接続》活用語の未然形に付く。〔打消の接続〕…ないで。…ずに。
This で is surviving as part of ならでは.
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In classical Japanese, で after an irrealis-form (未然形) means ないで in modern Japanese. So 折らで means 折らないで or "without snapping off".
で
接続助詞
《接続》活用語の未然形に付く。〔打消の接続〕…ないで。…ずに。
This で is surviving as part of ならでは.
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In classical Japanese, で after an irrealis-form (未然形) means ないで in modern Japanese. So 折らで means 折らないで or "without snapping off".
で
接続助詞
《接続》活用語の未然形に付く。〔打消の接続〕…ないで。…ずに。
This で is surviving as part of ならでは.
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In classical Japanese, で after an irrealis-form (未然形) means ないで in modern Japanese. So 折らで means 折らないで or "without snapping off".
で
接続助詞
《接続》活用語の未然形に付く。〔打消の接続〕…ないで。…ずに。
This で is surviving as part of ならでは.
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