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What legally stops the UK from having another referendum on Brexit
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Is there a legal reason or law(s) that prevents the United Kingdom from having another referendum on Brexit?
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Possible duplicate of What's the point in holding a second Brexit referendum?
– Alexei
1 hour ago
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@Perhaps, but I think that question was asking more for opinions. This question is asking if there are any specific legal barriers. I don't think that's an opinion.
– ouflak
1 hour ago
They say that when a child is lost it is best to remain still and not wander
– SCFi
1 hour ago
I don't have the rep, but would propose that this question be moved to law.stackexchange.com
– JBentley
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4
Possible duplicate of What's the point in holding a second Brexit referendum?
– Alexei
1 hour ago
1
@Perhaps, but I think that question was asking more for opinions. This question is asking if there are any specific legal barriers. I don't think that's an opinion.
– ouflak
1 hour ago
They say that when a child is lost it is best to remain still and not wander
– SCFi
1 hour ago
I don't have the rep, but would propose that this question be moved to law.stackexchange.com
– JBentley
20 mins ago
add a comment |
4
Possible duplicate of What's the point in holding a second Brexit referendum?
– Alexei
1 hour ago
1
@Perhaps, but I think that question was asking more for opinions. This question is asking if there are any specific legal barriers. I don't think that's an opinion.
– ouflak
1 hour ago
They say that when a child is lost it is best to remain still and not wander
– SCFi
1 hour ago
I don't have the rep, but would propose that this question be moved to law.stackexchange.com
– JBentley
20 mins ago
4
4
Possible duplicate of What's the point in holding a second Brexit referendum?
– Alexei
1 hour ago
Possible duplicate of What's the point in holding a second Brexit referendum?
– Alexei
1 hour ago
1
1
@Perhaps, but I think that question was asking more for opinions. This question is asking if there are any specific legal barriers. I don't think that's an opinion.
– ouflak
1 hour ago
@Perhaps, but I think that question was asking more for opinions. This question is asking if there are any specific legal barriers. I don't think that's an opinion.
– ouflak
1 hour ago
They say that when a child is lost it is best to remain still and not wander
– SCFi
1 hour ago
They say that when a child is lost it is best to remain still and not wander
– SCFi
1 hour ago
I don't have the rep, but would propose that this question be moved to law.stackexchange.com
– JBentley
20 mins ago
I don't have the rep, but would propose that this question be moved to law.stackexchange.com
– JBentley
20 mins ago
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No. The United Kingdom can hold as many referendums on this subject as it likes, as often as it likes. Obviously there are technicalities and bureaucratic measures that have to be accounted for, and some logistical concerns, but there are no legal restrictions to holding the same referendum after the same referendum again and again until the desired result is achieved.
The main impediments to having a referendum at present are the lack of time before the Brexit deadline, and the determination of the Prime Minister not to have one.
– John Dallman
1 hour ago
4
I'd take out the "desired result" bit. There are many reasons why the UK might hold a second referendum.
– Paul Johnson
1 hour ago
@PaulJohnson, Yeah that is a bit charged. Mulling that edit over....
– ouflak
50 mins ago
+1 for addressing the actual question (the legality). I would suggest providing some explanation of the legal process (e.g. Parliamentary sovereignty, all that is required is an Act of parliament, etc.), but on the other hand this is not law.stackexchange, where the question really ought to have been posted.
– JBentley
24 mins ago
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The main issue with taking another referendum is not so much that they cannot, but rather that it opens the door to being accused of trying again until you get the outcome you want.
Anyone who is loudly in favor of a new referendum can similarly be accused of not wanting to enact the will of the people (i.e. the outcome of the first referendum). You only need a minority of "leave" voters who get offended enough to cause a significant uproar over your so-called undemocratic behavior.
If you ask the people for input, they give you an answer, and then you don't want to follow their answer, what is the point of asking them again? Either you're going to get the same answer (which means the second referendum was pointless), or you're going to get the answer you wanted so you can do the thing (remain in the EU) that you think is better (which means referendums are pointless if you're going to do what you want anyway, instead of listening to the people).
In either case, the second referendum always leads to a situation that suggests that the second referendum is pointless.
In short, the UK currently finds itself in a position where they're headed in a direction that (a significant subset of) people do not want to go, but everyone's apprehensive of changing direction because they don't want the backlash that comes with being the one who proposed changing direction.
Well, a second referendum leads to a situation that suggests that the second or first referendum was pointless. Not sure there is a legal term for this situation, but I wouldn't be surprised at all if there was.
– ouflak
51 mins ago
@ouflak: Is that not a catch 22? The way to change the situation is via a referendum, but calling a second referendum inherently invalidates the point of having a referendum, thus defeating the ability to actually change the situation.
– Flater
48 mins ago
Yeah, you could say even that both (and/or all subsequent repeats) referendums could be rendered pointless. I was just trying to relate your answer to a legal point since the OP is asking rather specifically if there is a legal reason barring any subsequent referendum on the same topic.
– ouflak
45 mins ago
3
If you ask the people again, and they give a different answer, that means they have changed their mind. If you do what they requested the second time, you are enacting the will of the people. I agree that people can be accused of not doing so (and probably would be), but it is factually incorrect to suggest that this is true. Democracy isn't frozen in time, it is an ongoing process. Counter example: general elections are held every 5 years, specifically in acknowledgement of the fact that the electorate can change it's mind.
– JBentley
26 mins ago
2
@JBentley: I agree with your comment but the reality is that public perception and being open to rhetoric are actual drawbacks. Just because something is logical does not mean that this is easily proven to (a reasonable majority of) people.
– Flater
23 mins ago
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No. The United Kingdom can hold as many referendums on this subject as it likes, as often as it likes. Obviously there are technicalities and bureaucratic measures that have to be accounted for, and some logistical concerns, but there are no legal restrictions to holding the same referendum after the same referendum again and again until the desired result is achieved.
The main impediments to having a referendum at present are the lack of time before the Brexit deadline, and the determination of the Prime Minister not to have one.
– John Dallman
1 hour ago
4
I'd take out the "desired result" bit. There are many reasons why the UK might hold a second referendum.
– Paul Johnson
1 hour ago
@PaulJohnson, Yeah that is a bit charged. Mulling that edit over....
– ouflak
50 mins ago
+1 for addressing the actual question (the legality). I would suggest providing some explanation of the legal process (e.g. Parliamentary sovereignty, all that is required is an Act of parliament, etc.), but on the other hand this is not law.stackexchange, where the question really ought to have been posted.
– JBentley
24 mins ago
add a comment |
No. The United Kingdom can hold as many referendums on this subject as it likes, as often as it likes. Obviously there are technicalities and bureaucratic measures that have to be accounted for, and some logistical concerns, but there are no legal restrictions to holding the same referendum after the same referendum again and again until the desired result is achieved.
The main impediments to having a referendum at present are the lack of time before the Brexit deadline, and the determination of the Prime Minister not to have one.
– John Dallman
1 hour ago
4
I'd take out the "desired result" bit. There are many reasons why the UK might hold a second referendum.
– Paul Johnson
1 hour ago
@PaulJohnson, Yeah that is a bit charged. Mulling that edit over....
– ouflak
50 mins ago
+1 for addressing the actual question (the legality). I would suggest providing some explanation of the legal process (e.g. Parliamentary sovereignty, all that is required is an Act of parliament, etc.), but on the other hand this is not law.stackexchange, where the question really ought to have been posted.
– JBentley
24 mins ago
add a comment |
No. The United Kingdom can hold as many referendums on this subject as it likes, as often as it likes. Obviously there are technicalities and bureaucratic measures that have to be accounted for, and some logistical concerns, but there are no legal restrictions to holding the same referendum after the same referendum again and again until the desired result is achieved.
No. The United Kingdom can hold as many referendums on this subject as it likes, as often as it likes. Obviously there are technicalities and bureaucratic measures that have to be accounted for, and some logistical concerns, but there are no legal restrictions to holding the same referendum after the same referendum again and again until the desired result is achieved.
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The main impediments to having a referendum at present are the lack of time before the Brexit deadline, and the determination of the Prime Minister not to have one.
– John Dallman
1 hour ago
4
I'd take out the "desired result" bit. There are many reasons why the UK might hold a second referendum.
– Paul Johnson
1 hour ago
@PaulJohnson, Yeah that is a bit charged. Mulling that edit over....
– ouflak
50 mins ago
+1 for addressing the actual question (the legality). I would suggest providing some explanation of the legal process (e.g. Parliamentary sovereignty, all that is required is an Act of parliament, etc.), but on the other hand this is not law.stackexchange, where the question really ought to have been posted.
– JBentley
24 mins ago
add a comment |
The main impediments to having a referendum at present are the lack of time before the Brexit deadline, and the determination of the Prime Minister not to have one.
– John Dallman
1 hour ago
4
I'd take out the "desired result" bit. There are many reasons why the UK might hold a second referendum.
– Paul Johnson
1 hour ago
@PaulJohnson, Yeah that is a bit charged. Mulling that edit over....
– ouflak
50 mins ago
+1 for addressing the actual question (the legality). I would suggest providing some explanation of the legal process (e.g. Parliamentary sovereignty, all that is required is an Act of parliament, etc.), but on the other hand this is not law.stackexchange, where the question really ought to have been posted.
– JBentley
24 mins ago
The main impediments to having a referendum at present are the lack of time before the Brexit deadline, and the determination of the Prime Minister not to have one.
– John Dallman
1 hour ago
The main impediments to having a referendum at present are the lack of time before the Brexit deadline, and the determination of the Prime Minister not to have one.
– John Dallman
1 hour ago
4
4
I'd take out the "desired result" bit. There are many reasons why the UK might hold a second referendum.
– Paul Johnson
1 hour ago
I'd take out the "desired result" bit. There are many reasons why the UK might hold a second referendum.
– Paul Johnson
1 hour ago
@PaulJohnson, Yeah that is a bit charged. Mulling that edit over....
– ouflak
50 mins ago
@PaulJohnson, Yeah that is a bit charged. Mulling that edit over....
– ouflak
50 mins ago
+1 for addressing the actual question (the legality). I would suggest providing some explanation of the legal process (e.g. Parliamentary sovereignty, all that is required is an Act of parliament, etc.), but on the other hand this is not law.stackexchange, where the question really ought to have been posted.
– JBentley
24 mins ago
+1 for addressing the actual question (the legality). I would suggest providing some explanation of the legal process (e.g. Parliamentary sovereignty, all that is required is an Act of parliament, etc.), but on the other hand this is not law.stackexchange, where the question really ought to have been posted.
– JBentley
24 mins ago
add a comment |
The main issue with taking another referendum is not so much that they cannot, but rather that it opens the door to being accused of trying again until you get the outcome you want.
Anyone who is loudly in favor of a new referendum can similarly be accused of not wanting to enact the will of the people (i.e. the outcome of the first referendum). You only need a minority of "leave" voters who get offended enough to cause a significant uproar over your so-called undemocratic behavior.
If you ask the people for input, they give you an answer, and then you don't want to follow their answer, what is the point of asking them again? Either you're going to get the same answer (which means the second referendum was pointless), or you're going to get the answer you wanted so you can do the thing (remain in the EU) that you think is better (which means referendums are pointless if you're going to do what you want anyway, instead of listening to the people).
In either case, the second referendum always leads to a situation that suggests that the second referendum is pointless.
In short, the UK currently finds itself in a position where they're headed in a direction that (a significant subset of) people do not want to go, but everyone's apprehensive of changing direction because they don't want the backlash that comes with being the one who proposed changing direction.
Well, a second referendum leads to a situation that suggests that the second or first referendum was pointless. Not sure there is a legal term for this situation, but I wouldn't be surprised at all if there was.
– ouflak
51 mins ago
@ouflak: Is that not a catch 22? The way to change the situation is via a referendum, but calling a second referendum inherently invalidates the point of having a referendum, thus defeating the ability to actually change the situation.
– Flater
48 mins ago
Yeah, you could say even that both (and/or all subsequent repeats) referendums could be rendered pointless. I was just trying to relate your answer to a legal point since the OP is asking rather specifically if there is a legal reason barring any subsequent referendum on the same topic.
– ouflak
45 mins ago
3
If you ask the people again, and they give a different answer, that means they have changed their mind. If you do what they requested the second time, you are enacting the will of the people. I agree that people can be accused of not doing so (and probably would be), but it is factually incorrect to suggest that this is true. Democracy isn't frozen in time, it is an ongoing process. Counter example: general elections are held every 5 years, specifically in acknowledgement of the fact that the electorate can change it's mind.
– JBentley
26 mins ago
2
@JBentley: I agree with your comment but the reality is that public perception and being open to rhetoric are actual drawbacks. Just because something is logical does not mean that this is easily proven to (a reasonable majority of) people.
– Flater
23 mins ago
|
show 1 more comment
The main issue with taking another referendum is not so much that they cannot, but rather that it opens the door to being accused of trying again until you get the outcome you want.
Anyone who is loudly in favor of a new referendum can similarly be accused of not wanting to enact the will of the people (i.e. the outcome of the first referendum). You only need a minority of "leave" voters who get offended enough to cause a significant uproar over your so-called undemocratic behavior.
If you ask the people for input, they give you an answer, and then you don't want to follow their answer, what is the point of asking them again? Either you're going to get the same answer (which means the second referendum was pointless), or you're going to get the answer you wanted so you can do the thing (remain in the EU) that you think is better (which means referendums are pointless if you're going to do what you want anyway, instead of listening to the people).
In either case, the second referendum always leads to a situation that suggests that the second referendum is pointless.
In short, the UK currently finds itself in a position where they're headed in a direction that (a significant subset of) people do not want to go, but everyone's apprehensive of changing direction because they don't want the backlash that comes with being the one who proposed changing direction.
Well, a second referendum leads to a situation that suggests that the second or first referendum was pointless. Not sure there is a legal term for this situation, but I wouldn't be surprised at all if there was.
– ouflak
51 mins ago
@ouflak: Is that not a catch 22? The way to change the situation is via a referendum, but calling a second referendum inherently invalidates the point of having a referendum, thus defeating the ability to actually change the situation.
– Flater
48 mins ago
Yeah, you could say even that both (and/or all subsequent repeats) referendums could be rendered pointless. I was just trying to relate your answer to a legal point since the OP is asking rather specifically if there is a legal reason barring any subsequent referendum on the same topic.
– ouflak
45 mins ago
3
If you ask the people again, and they give a different answer, that means they have changed their mind. If you do what they requested the second time, you are enacting the will of the people. I agree that people can be accused of not doing so (and probably would be), but it is factually incorrect to suggest that this is true. Democracy isn't frozen in time, it is an ongoing process. Counter example: general elections are held every 5 years, specifically in acknowledgement of the fact that the electorate can change it's mind.
– JBentley
26 mins ago
2
@JBentley: I agree with your comment but the reality is that public perception and being open to rhetoric are actual drawbacks. Just because something is logical does not mean that this is easily proven to (a reasonable majority of) people.
– Flater
23 mins ago
|
show 1 more comment
The main issue with taking another referendum is not so much that they cannot, but rather that it opens the door to being accused of trying again until you get the outcome you want.
Anyone who is loudly in favor of a new referendum can similarly be accused of not wanting to enact the will of the people (i.e. the outcome of the first referendum). You only need a minority of "leave" voters who get offended enough to cause a significant uproar over your so-called undemocratic behavior.
If you ask the people for input, they give you an answer, and then you don't want to follow their answer, what is the point of asking them again? Either you're going to get the same answer (which means the second referendum was pointless), or you're going to get the answer you wanted so you can do the thing (remain in the EU) that you think is better (which means referendums are pointless if you're going to do what you want anyway, instead of listening to the people).
In either case, the second referendum always leads to a situation that suggests that the second referendum is pointless.
In short, the UK currently finds itself in a position where they're headed in a direction that (a significant subset of) people do not want to go, but everyone's apprehensive of changing direction because they don't want the backlash that comes with being the one who proposed changing direction.
The main issue with taking another referendum is not so much that they cannot, but rather that it opens the door to being accused of trying again until you get the outcome you want.
Anyone who is loudly in favor of a new referendum can similarly be accused of not wanting to enact the will of the people (i.e. the outcome of the first referendum). You only need a minority of "leave" voters who get offended enough to cause a significant uproar over your so-called undemocratic behavior.
If you ask the people for input, they give you an answer, and then you don't want to follow their answer, what is the point of asking them again? Either you're going to get the same answer (which means the second referendum was pointless), or you're going to get the answer you wanted so you can do the thing (remain in the EU) that you think is better (which means referendums are pointless if you're going to do what you want anyway, instead of listening to the people).
In either case, the second referendum always leads to a situation that suggests that the second referendum is pointless.
In short, the UK currently finds itself in a position where they're headed in a direction that (a significant subset of) people do not want to go, but everyone's apprehensive of changing direction because they don't want the backlash that comes with being the one who proposed changing direction.
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Well, a second referendum leads to a situation that suggests that the second or first referendum was pointless. Not sure there is a legal term for this situation, but I wouldn't be surprised at all if there was.
– ouflak
51 mins ago
@ouflak: Is that not a catch 22? The way to change the situation is via a referendum, but calling a second referendum inherently invalidates the point of having a referendum, thus defeating the ability to actually change the situation.
– Flater
48 mins ago
Yeah, you could say even that both (and/or all subsequent repeats) referendums could be rendered pointless. I was just trying to relate your answer to a legal point since the OP is asking rather specifically if there is a legal reason barring any subsequent referendum on the same topic.
– ouflak
45 mins ago
3
If you ask the people again, and they give a different answer, that means they have changed their mind. If you do what they requested the second time, you are enacting the will of the people. I agree that people can be accused of not doing so (and probably would be), but it is factually incorrect to suggest that this is true. Democracy isn't frozen in time, it is an ongoing process. Counter example: general elections are held every 5 years, specifically in acknowledgement of the fact that the electorate can change it's mind.
– JBentley
26 mins ago
2
@JBentley: I agree with your comment but the reality is that public perception and being open to rhetoric are actual drawbacks. Just because something is logical does not mean that this is easily proven to (a reasonable majority of) people.
– Flater
23 mins ago
|
show 1 more comment
Well, a second referendum leads to a situation that suggests that the second or first referendum was pointless. Not sure there is a legal term for this situation, but I wouldn't be surprised at all if there was.
– ouflak
51 mins ago
@ouflak: Is that not a catch 22? The way to change the situation is via a referendum, but calling a second referendum inherently invalidates the point of having a referendum, thus defeating the ability to actually change the situation.
– Flater
48 mins ago
Yeah, you could say even that both (and/or all subsequent repeats) referendums could be rendered pointless. I was just trying to relate your answer to a legal point since the OP is asking rather specifically if there is a legal reason barring any subsequent referendum on the same topic.
– ouflak
45 mins ago
3
If you ask the people again, and they give a different answer, that means they have changed their mind. If you do what they requested the second time, you are enacting the will of the people. I agree that people can be accused of not doing so (and probably would be), but it is factually incorrect to suggest that this is true. Democracy isn't frozen in time, it is an ongoing process. Counter example: general elections are held every 5 years, specifically in acknowledgement of the fact that the electorate can change it's mind.
– JBentley
26 mins ago
2
@JBentley: I agree with your comment but the reality is that public perception and being open to rhetoric are actual drawbacks. Just because something is logical does not mean that this is easily proven to (a reasonable majority of) people.
– Flater
23 mins ago
Well, a second referendum leads to a situation that suggests that the second or first referendum was pointless. Not sure there is a legal term for this situation, but I wouldn't be surprised at all if there was.
– ouflak
51 mins ago
Well, a second referendum leads to a situation that suggests that the second or first referendum was pointless. Not sure there is a legal term for this situation, but I wouldn't be surprised at all if there was.
– ouflak
51 mins ago
@ouflak: Is that not a catch 22? The way to change the situation is via a referendum, but calling a second referendum inherently invalidates the point of having a referendum, thus defeating the ability to actually change the situation.
– Flater
48 mins ago
@ouflak: Is that not a catch 22? The way to change the situation is via a referendum, but calling a second referendum inherently invalidates the point of having a referendum, thus defeating the ability to actually change the situation.
– Flater
48 mins ago
Yeah, you could say even that both (and/or all subsequent repeats) referendums could be rendered pointless. I was just trying to relate your answer to a legal point since the OP is asking rather specifically if there is a legal reason barring any subsequent referendum on the same topic.
– ouflak
45 mins ago
Yeah, you could say even that both (and/or all subsequent repeats) referendums could be rendered pointless. I was just trying to relate your answer to a legal point since the OP is asking rather specifically if there is a legal reason barring any subsequent referendum on the same topic.
– ouflak
45 mins ago
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If you ask the people again, and they give a different answer, that means they have changed their mind. If you do what they requested the second time, you are enacting the will of the people. I agree that people can be accused of not doing so (and probably would be), but it is factually incorrect to suggest that this is true. Democracy isn't frozen in time, it is an ongoing process. Counter example: general elections are held every 5 years, specifically in acknowledgement of the fact that the electorate can change it's mind.
– JBentley
26 mins ago
If you ask the people again, and they give a different answer, that means they have changed their mind. If you do what they requested the second time, you are enacting the will of the people. I agree that people can be accused of not doing so (and probably would be), but it is factually incorrect to suggest that this is true. Democracy isn't frozen in time, it is an ongoing process. Counter example: general elections are held every 5 years, specifically in acknowledgement of the fact that the electorate can change it's mind.
– JBentley
26 mins ago
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@JBentley: I agree with your comment but the reality is that public perception and being open to rhetoric are actual drawbacks. Just because something is logical does not mean that this is easily proven to (a reasonable majority of) people.
– Flater
23 mins ago
@JBentley: I agree with your comment but the reality is that public perception and being open to rhetoric are actual drawbacks. Just because something is logical does not mean that this is easily proven to (a reasonable majority of) people.
– Flater
23 mins ago
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Possible duplicate of What's the point in holding a second Brexit referendum?
– Alexei
1 hour ago
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@Perhaps, but I think that question was asking more for opinions. This question is asking if there are any specific legal barriers. I don't think that's an opinion.
– ouflak
1 hour ago
They say that when a child is lost it is best to remain still and not wander
– SCFi
1 hour ago
I don't have the rep, but would propose that this question be moved to law.stackexchange.com
– JBentley
20 mins ago