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Electrolysis of water: Which equations to use? (IB Chem)
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There is a list of standard electrode potentials at 298 K from the p. 23 of IB Data Booklet 2016. Which of the following equations (forward/backward reactions), from the two possible ones involving the discharge of hydrogen gas and the other two with oxygen gas discharge, should I use for the oxidation and reduction of water in electrolytic cells?
$$
begin{array}{cc}
hline
ce{text{Oxidized species} <=> text{Reduced species}} & E^⦵(pu{V}) \
hline
begin{align}
ce{H2O(l) + e- &<=> 0.5 H2(g) + OH-(aq)} \
ce{H+(aq) + e- &<=> 0.5 H2(g)} \
ce{0.5 O2(g) + H2O(l) + 2 e- &<=> 2 OH-(aq)} \
ce{0.5 O2(g) + 2 H+(aq) + 2 e- &<=> H2O(l)}
end{align}
&
begin{array}{r}
-0.83 \
0.00 \
+0.40 \
+1.23
end{array}
\
hline
end{array}
$$
(Unless the use of any of these equations cannot be generalized — for a concise explanation of why this is so and what to do then I would be equally grateful.)
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There is a list of standard electrode potentials at 298 K from the p. 23 of IB Data Booklet 2016. Which of the following equations (forward/backward reactions), from the two possible ones involving the discharge of hydrogen gas and the other two with oxygen gas discharge, should I use for the oxidation and reduction of water in electrolytic cells?
$$
begin{array}{cc}
hline
ce{text{Oxidized species} <=> text{Reduced species}} & E^⦵(pu{V}) \
hline
begin{align}
ce{H2O(l) + e- &<=> 0.5 H2(g) + OH-(aq)} \
ce{H+(aq) + e- &<=> 0.5 H2(g)} \
ce{0.5 O2(g) + H2O(l) + 2 e- &<=> 2 OH-(aq)} \
ce{0.5 O2(g) + 2 H+(aq) + 2 e- &<=> H2O(l)}
end{align}
&
begin{array}{r}
-0.83 \
0.00 \
+0.40 \
+1.23
end{array}
\
hline
end{array}
$$
(Unless the use of any of these equations cannot be generalized — for a concise explanation of why this is so and what to do then I would be equally grateful.)
physical-chemistry electrochemistry redox water reduction-potential
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There is a list of standard electrode potentials at 298 K from the p. 23 of IB Data Booklet 2016. Which of the following equations (forward/backward reactions), from the two possible ones involving the discharge of hydrogen gas and the other two with oxygen gas discharge, should I use for the oxidation and reduction of water in electrolytic cells?
$$
begin{array}{cc}
hline
ce{text{Oxidized species} <=> text{Reduced species}} & E^⦵(pu{V}) \
hline
begin{align}
ce{H2O(l) + e- &<=> 0.5 H2(g) + OH-(aq)} \
ce{H+(aq) + e- &<=> 0.5 H2(g)} \
ce{0.5 O2(g) + H2O(l) + 2 e- &<=> 2 OH-(aq)} \
ce{0.5 O2(g) + 2 H+(aq) + 2 e- &<=> H2O(l)}
end{align}
&
begin{array}{r}
-0.83 \
0.00 \
+0.40 \
+1.23
end{array}
\
hline
end{array}
$$
(Unless the use of any of these equations cannot be generalized — for a concise explanation of why this is so and what to do then I would be equally grateful.)
physical-chemistry electrochemistry redox water reduction-potential
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There is a list of standard electrode potentials at 298 K from the p. 23 of IB Data Booklet 2016. Which of the following equations (forward/backward reactions), from the two possible ones involving the discharge of hydrogen gas and the other two with oxygen gas discharge, should I use for the oxidation and reduction of water in electrolytic cells?
$$
begin{array}{cc}
hline
ce{text{Oxidized species} <=> text{Reduced species}} & E^⦵(pu{V}) \
hline
begin{align}
ce{H2O(l) + e- &<=> 0.5 H2(g) + OH-(aq)} \
ce{H+(aq) + e- &<=> 0.5 H2(g)} \
ce{0.5 O2(g) + H2O(l) + 2 e- &<=> 2 OH-(aq)} \
ce{0.5 O2(g) + 2 H+(aq) + 2 e- &<=> H2O(l)}
end{align}
&
begin{array}{r}
-0.83 \
0.00 \
+0.40 \
+1.23
end{array}
\
hline
end{array}
$$
(Unless the use of any of these equations cannot be generalized — for a concise explanation of why this is so and what to do then I would be equally grateful.)
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For the acidic electrolysis, use the reactions where $ce{H+}$ occurs.
As $ce{OH-}$ is not available in considerable amount there as a reagent, neither it is created as a product.
Generally, for a reaction choice, apply the principle of availability and stability, allowing for a reagent to exist in (relative) abundance.
$ce{OH-}$ or anions of weak acids like $ce{ClO-}$ do not survive in acids. Acids do not survive in hydroxides.
But note that using reactions with half of a molecule is not necessery.
$$begin{align}
ce{O2(g) + 4H+(aq) + 4e- &<=> 2 H2O(l)}\
ce{2H+(aq) + 2e- &<=> H2(g)}
end{align}$$
For the alkaline electrolysis, similarly, use the reactions where $ce{OH}$- occurs.
$$begin{align}
ce{2 H2O(l) + 2e- &<=> H2(g) + 2 OH^-(aq)}\
ce{O2(g) + 2 H2O(l) + 4e- &<=> 4 OH^-(aq)}
end{align}$$
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Thank you, @Poutnik. Could you also explain to me how I could apply this knowledge to, for example, the electrolysis of aqueous sodium chloride? A textbook example uses equations from both categories you mentioned.
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– w_w
1 hour ago
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Apply the same principle of availability and stability.
$endgroup$
– Poutnik
56 mins ago
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@w_w If you are happy with the answer, feel free to upvote (might not be available due to low rep) and accept it (grey tick mark below).
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– andselisk
29 mins ago
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@Poutnik, I suppose that by "availability" you mean concentration of the salt, but I am not sure how to tackle "stability"... Does "stability" have to do with electrode potential values? I am too verdant to figure this out by myself.
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– w_w
16 mins ago
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@andselisk, Thank you for the edits and the reminder!
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$begingroup$
For the acidic electrolysis, use the reactions where $ce{H+}$ occurs.
As $ce{OH-}$ is not available in considerable amount there as a reagent, neither it is created as a product.
Generally, for a reaction choice, apply the principle of availability and stability, allowing for a reagent to exist in (relative) abundance.
$ce{OH-}$ or anions of weak acids like $ce{ClO-}$ do not survive in acids. Acids do not survive in hydroxides.
But note that using reactions with half of a molecule is not necessery.
$$begin{align}
ce{O2(g) + 4H+(aq) + 4e- &<=> 2 H2O(l)}\
ce{2H+(aq) + 2e- &<=> H2(g)}
end{align}$$
For the alkaline electrolysis, similarly, use the reactions where $ce{OH}$- occurs.
$$begin{align}
ce{2 H2O(l) + 2e- &<=> H2(g) + 2 OH^-(aq)}\
ce{O2(g) + 2 H2O(l) + 4e- &<=> 4 OH^-(aq)}
end{align}$$
$endgroup$
$begingroup$
Thank you, @Poutnik. Could you also explain to me how I could apply this knowledge to, for example, the electrolysis of aqueous sodium chloride? A textbook example uses equations from both categories you mentioned.
$endgroup$
– w_w
1 hour ago
1
$begingroup$
Apply the same principle of availability and stability.
$endgroup$
– Poutnik
56 mins ago
$begingroup$
@w_w If you are happy with the answer, feel free to upvote (might not be available due to low rep) and accept it (grey tick mark below).
$endgroup$
– andselisk
29 mins ago
$begingroup$
@Poutnik, I suppose that by "availability" you mean concentration of the salt, but I am not sure how to tackle "stability"... Does "stability" have to do with electrode potential values? I am too verdant to figure this out by myself.
$endgroup$
– w_w
16 mins ago
1
$begingroup$
@andselisk, Thank you for the edits and the reminder!
$endgroup$
– w_w
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|
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$begingroup$
For the acidic electrolysis, use the reactions where $ce{H+}$ occurs.
As $ce{OH-}$ is not available in considerable amount there as a reagent, neither it is created as a product.
Generally, for a reaction choice, apply the principle of availability and stability, allowing for a reagent to exist in (relative) abundance.
$ce{OH-}$ or anions of weak acids like $ce{ClO-}$ do not survive in acids. Acids do not survive in hydroxides.
But note that using reactions with half of a molecule is not necessery.
$$begin{align}
ce{O2(g) + 4H+(aq) + 4e- &<=> 2 H2O(l)}\
ce{2H+(aq) + 2e- &<=> H2(g)}
end{align}$$
For the alkaline electrolysis, similarly, use the reactions where $ce{OH}$- occurs.
$$begin{align}
ce{2 H2O(l) + 2e- &<=> H2(g) + 2 OH^-(aq)}\
ce{O2(g) + 2 H2O(l) + 4e- &<=> 4 OH^-(aq)}
end{align}$$
$endgroup$
$begingroup$
Thank you, @Poutnik. Could you also explain to me how I could apply this knowledge to, for example, the electrolysis of aqueous sodium chloride? A textbook example uses equations from both categories you mentioned.
$endgroup$
– w_w
1 hour ago
1
$begingroup$
Apply the same principle of availability and stability.
$endgroup$
– Poutnik
56 mins ago
$begingroup$
@w_w If you are happy with the answer, feel free to upvote (might not be available due to low rep) and accept it (grey tick mark below).
$endgroup$
– andselisk
29 mins ago
$begingroup$
@Poutnik, I suppose that by "availability" you mean concentration of the salt, but I am not sure how to tackle "stability"... Does "stability" have to do with electrode potential values? I am too verdant to figure this out by myself.
$endgroup$
– w_w
16 mins ago
1
$begingroup$
@andselisk, Thank you for the edits and the reminder!
$endgroup$
– w_w
16 mins ago
|
show 2 more comments
$begingroup$
For the acidic electrolysis, use the reactions where $ce{H+}$ occurs.
As $ce{OH-}$ is not available in considerable amount there as a reagent, neither it is created as a product.
Generally, for a reaction choice, apply the principle of availability and stability, allowing for a reagent to exist in (relative) abundance.
$ce{OH-}$ or anions of weak acids like $ce{ClO-}$ do not survive in acids. Acids do not survive in hydroxides.
But note that using reactions with half of a molecule is not necessery.
$$begin{align}
ce{O2(g) + 4H+(aq) + 4e- &<=> 2 H2O(l)}\
ce{2H+(aq) + 2e- &<=> H2(g)}
end{align}$$
For the alkaline electrolysis, similarly, use the reactions where $ce{OH}$- occurs.
$$begin{align}
ce{2 H2O(l) + 2e- &<=> H2(g) + 2 OH^-(aq)}\
ce{O2(g) + 2 H2O(l) + 4e- &<=> 4 OH^-(aq)}
end{align}$$
$endgroup$
For the acidic electrolysis, use the reactions where $ce{H+}$ occurs.
As $ce{OH-}$ is not available in considerable amount there as a reagent, neither it is created as a product.
Generally, for a reaction choice, apply the principle of availability and stability, allowing for a reagent to exist in (relative) abundance.
$ce{OH-}$ or anions of weak acids like $ce{ClO-}$ do not survive in acids. Acids do not survive in hydroxides.
But note that using reactions with half of a molecule is not necessery.
$$begin{align}
ce{O2(g) + 4H+(aq) + 4e- &<=> 2 H2O(l)}\
ce{2H+(aq) + 2e- &<=> H2(g)}
end{align}$$
For the alkaline electrolysis, similarly, use the reactions where $ce{OH}$- occurs.
$$begin{align}
ce{2 H2O(l) + 2e- &<=> H2(g) + 2 OH^-(aq)}\
ce{O2(g) + 2 H2O(l) + 4e- &<=> 4 OH^-(aq)}
end{align}$$
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Thank you, @Poutnik. Could you also explain to me how I could apply this knowledge to, for example, the electrolysis of aqueous sodium chloride? A textbook example uses equations from both categories you mentioned.
$endgroup$
– w_w
1 hour ago
1
$begingroup$
Apply the same principle of availability and stability.
$endgroup$
– Poutnik
56 mins ago
$begingroup$
@w_w If you are happy with the answer, feel free to upvote (might not be available due to low rep) and accept it (grey tick mark below).
$endgroup$
– andselisk
29 mins ago
$begingroup$
@Poutnik, I suppose that by "availability" you mean concentration of the salt, but I am not sure how to tackle "stability"... Does "stability" have to do with electrode potential values? I am too verdant to figure this out by myself.
$endgroup$
– w_w
16 mins ago
1
$begingroup$
@andselisk, Thank you for the edits and the reminder!
$endgroup$
– w_w
16 mins ago
|
show 2 more comments
$begingroup$
Thank you, @Poutnik. Could you also explain to me how I could apply this knowledge to, for example, the electrolysis of aqueous sodium chloride? A textbook example uses equations from both categories you mentioned.
$endgroup$
– w_w
1 hour ago
1
$begingroup$
Apply the same principle of availability and stability.
$endgroup$
– Poutnik
56 mins ago
$begingroup$
@w_w If you are happy with the answer, feel free to upvote (might not be available due to low rep) and accept it (grey tick mark below).
$endgroup$
– andselisk
29 mins ago
$begingroup$
@Poutnik, I suppose that by "availability" you mean concentration of the salt, but I am not sure how to tackle "stability"... Does "stability" have to do with electrode potential values? I am too verdant to figure this out by myself.
$endgroup$
– w_w
16 mins ago
1
$begingroup$
@andselisk, Thank you for the edits and the reminder!
$endgroup$
– w_w
16 mins ago
$begingroup$
Thank you, @Poutnik. Could you also explain to me how I could apply this knowledge to, for example, the electrolysis of aqueous sodium chloride? A textbook example uses equations from both categories you mentioned.
$endgroup$
– w_w
1 hour ago
$begingroup$
Thank you, @Poutnik. Could you also explain to me how I could apply this knowledge to, for example, the electrolysis of aqueous sodium chloride? A textbook example uses equations from both categories you mentioned.
$endgroup$
– w_w
1 hour ago
1
1
$begingroup$
Apply the same principle of availability and stability.
$endgroup$
– Poutnik
56 mins ago
$begingroup$
Apply the same principle of availability and stability.
$endgroup$
– Poutnik
56 mins ago
$begingroup$
@w_w If you are happy with the answer, feel free to upvote (might not be available due to low rep) and accept it (grey tick mark below).
$endgroup$
– andselisk
29 mins ago
$begingroup$
@w_w If you are happy with the answer, feel free to upvote (might not be available due to low rep) and accept it (grey tick mark below).
$endgroup$
– andselisk
29 mins ago
$begingroup$
@Poutnik, I suppose that by "availability" you mean concentration of the salt, but I am not sure how to tackle "stability"... Does "stability" have to do with electrode potential values? I am too verdant to figure this out by myself.
$endgroup$
– w_w
16 mins ago
$begingroup$
@Poutnik, I suppose that by "availability" you mean concentration of the salt, but I am not sure how to tackle "stability"... Does "stability" have to do with electrode potential values? I am too verdant to figure this out by myself.
$endgroup$
– w_w
16 mins ago
1
1
$begingroup$
@andselisk, Thank you for the edits and the reminder!
$endgroup$
– w_w
16 mins ago
$begingroup$
@andselisk, Thank you for the edits and the reminder!
$endgroup$
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