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Will expression retain the same definition if particle is changed?

What does “声が出る” mean?Grammatical meaning of に-particle in へいわにCan't understand why “に” is used in “蚊に刺された” or what's the sense of this sentenceWhat is the function of particle に in 「Aチームに[勝つ]【かつ】チームがあるとしたら…」?Use of the particle を/に indicating target of an action - animate vs inanimate?Particle「も」in the sentence 「夏休みももう終わりだ」。Why is the を particle used twice hereこの文の「を」の使い方// usage of the particle をIndicating time in Japanese: に、は、or no particle?When can you use the particle さ?Using the particle と or the particle に with あう

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自分を奮い立たせるために、わざと自分の考えを声に出し行動を始めた。

I came across the expression 声を出す on jisho.org. I don't know if replacing the expression's を with に (because を is already used earlier in the sentence) will allow me to use the 声を出す definition when translating. Is this allowed?

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自分を奮い立たせるために、わざと自分の考えを声に出し行動を始めた。

I came across the expression 声を出す on jisho.org. I don't know if replacing the expression's を with に (because を is already used earlier in the sentence) will allow me to use the 声を出す definition when translating. Is this allowed?

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自分を奮い立たせるために、わざと自分の考えを声に出し行動を始めた。

I came across the expression 声を出す on jisho.org. I don't know if replacing the expression's を with に (because を is already used earlier in the sentence) will allow me to use the 声を出す definition when translating. Is this allowed?

particles particle-に particle-を

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声を出す cannot take another object because 声 itself is the object of this transitive verb. What is said as a word is not important.

声に出す is an "incomplete" expression because it lacks a direct object. It should be preceded by an object or a quotative-と to show the content of the speech. 声に itself is like an adverbial expression "as (physical) voice" or "aloud".

• 彼は謝罪の言葉を声に出した。


• 「ありがとう」と声に出して言いなさい。

See this question for more examples: What does "声が出る" mean?

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I will assume you know how to connect verbs with the te-form

晩【ばん】ご飯【はん】を食【た】べて、寝【ね】る。I will eat dinner and (then) sleep.

So, usually in texts/books, etc. There's a more formal way to do so, which is using the dictionary form instead.

晩【ばん】ご飯【はん】を食【た】べ、寝【ね】る。I will eat dinner, and (then) sleep.

but sometimes, writers do that without using a comma in between verbs/words, and that is what might be throwing you off. So what you have there is 声に出し、行動. We could rewrite it as:

自分を奮い立たせるために、　わざと自分の考えを声に出して、行動を始めた。In order to cheer myself up, I started acting my thoughts out loud.

In your specific case though, I believe we should not use a comma, because it might be using the following pattern 声に出して＋verb/noun that usually means "Doing something out loud".

声に出して読む - To read out loud.

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声を出す cannot take another object because 声 itself is the object of this transitive verb. What is said as a word is not important.

声に出す is an "incomplete" expression because it lacks a direct object. It should be preceded by an object or a quotative-と to show the content of the speech. 声に itself is like an adverbial expression "as (physical) voice" or "aloud".

• 彼は謝罪の言葉を声に出した。


• 「ありがとう」と声に出して言いなさい。

See this question for more examples: What does "声が出る" mean?

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声を出す cannot take another object because 声 itself is the object of this transitive verb. What is said as a word is not important.

声に出す is an "incomplete" expression because it lacks a direct object. It should be preceded by an object or a quotative-と to show the content of the speech. 声に itself is like an adverbial expression "as (physical) voice" or "aloud".

• 彼は謝罪の言葉を声に出した。


• 「ありがとう」と声に出して言いなさい。

See this question for more examples: What does "声が出る" mean?

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声を出す cannot take another object because 声 itself is the object of this transitive verb. What is said as a word is not important.

声に出す is an "incomplete" expression because it lacks a direct object. It should be preceded by an object or a quotative-と to show the content of the speech. 声に itself is like an adverbial expression "as (physical) voice" or "aloud".

• 彼は謝罪の言葉を声に出した。


• 「ありがとう」と声に出して言いなさい。

See this question for more examples: What does "声が出る" mean?

share|improve this answer

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answered 1 hour ago

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I will assume you know how to connect verbs with the te-form

晩【ばん】ご飯【はん】を食【た】べて、寝【ね】る。I will eat dinner and (then) sleep.

So, usually in texts/books, etc. There's a more formal way to do so, which is using the dictionary form instead.

晩【ばん】ご飯【はん】を食【た】べ、寝【ね】る。I will eat dinner, and (then) sleep.

but sometimes, writers do that without using a comma in between verbs/words, and that is what might be throwing you off. So what you have there is 声に出し、行動. We could rewrite it as:

自分を奮い立たせるために、　わざと自分の考えを声に出して、行動を始めた。In order to cheer myself up, I started acting my thoughts out loud.

In your specific case though, I believe we should not use a comma, because it might be using the following pattern 声に出して＋verb/noun that usually means "Doing something out loud".

声に出して読む - To read out loud.

share|improve this answer

edited 1 hour ago

answered 1 hour ago

Felipe OliveiraFelipe Oliveira

1,988720

• 
  
  
  

  
  1
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  Wait a minute, its possible to connect verbs via no-te form?!? I never knew this... thanks for the information.
  
  – Toyu_Frey
  1 hour ago
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  Yes, it is still called "continuative-form" but it uses the "dictionary form" instead of the "te-form" :)
  
  – Felipe Oliveira
  1 hour ago
  

  
  
  
  

add a comment | 

0

I will assume you know how to connect verbs with the te-form

晩【ばん】ご飯【はん】を食【た】べて、寝【ね】る。I will eat dinner and (then) sleep.

So, usually in texts/books, etc. There's a more formal way to do so, which is using the dictionary form instead.

晩【ばん】ご飯【はん】を食【た】べ、寝【ね】る。I will eat dinner, and (then) sleep.

but sometimes, writers do that without using a comma in between verbs/words, and that is what might be throwing you off. So what you have there is 声に出し、行動. We could rewrite it as:

自分を奮い立たせるために、　わざと自分の考えを声に出して、行動を始めた。In order to cheer myself up, I started acting my thoughts out loud.

In your specific case though, I believe we should not use a comma, because it might be using the following pattern 声に出して＋verb/noun that usually means "Doing something out loud".

声に出して読む - To read out loud.

share|improve this answer

edited 1 hour ago

answered 1 hour ago

Felipe OliveiraFelipe Oliveira

1,988720

• 
  
  
  

  
  1
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  Wait a minute, its possible to connect verbs via no-te form?!? I never knew this... thanks for the information.
  
  – Toyu_Frey
  1 hour ago
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  Yes, it is still called "continuative-form" but it uses the "dictionary form" instead of the "te-form" :)
  
  – Felipe Oliveira
  1 hour ago
  

  
  
  
  

add a comment | 

I will assume you know how to connect verbs with the te-form

晩【ばん】ご飯【はん】を食【た】べて、寝【ね】る。I will eat dinner and (then) sleep.

So, usually in texts/books, etc. There's a more formal way to do so, which is using the dictionary form instead.

晩【ばん】ご飯【はん】を食【た】べ、寝【ね】る。I will eat dinner, and (then) sleep.

but sometimes, writers do that without using a comma in between verbs/words, and that is what might be throwing you off. So what you have there is 声に出し、行動. We could rewrite it as:

自分を奮い立たせるために、　わざと自分の考えを声に出して、行動を始めた。In order to cheer myself up, I started acting my thoughts out loud.

In your specific case though, I believe we should not use a comma, because it might be using the following pattern 声に出して＋verb/noun that usually means "Doing something out loud".

声に出して読む - To read out loud.

share|improve this answer

edited 1 hour ago

answered 1 hour ago

Felipe OliveiraFelipe Oliveira

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edited 1 hour ago

answered 1 hour ago

Felipe OliveiraFelipe Oliveira

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answered 1 hour ago

Felipe OliveiraFelipe Oliveira

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answered 1 hour ago

Felipe OliveiraFelipe Oliveira

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