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Is a particular string regular (e.g is '010') regular?
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if alphabet is {0,1}, then is string '010' regular?
I think it is regular because DFA and Regular languages are equivalent and this string has a DFA but at the same time it seems to contradict pumping lemma which implies not regular. Here is what I mean.
For pumping lemma first we have to take w only in the language [here language is just '010] So w='010' I choose k = 2 then new string is w=x(y^k)z has length more than 3 so it is definitely not '010' which means this language is not Regular!
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if alphabet is {0,1}, then is string '010' regular?
I think it is regular because DFA and Regular languages are equivalent and this string has a DFA but at the same time it seems to contradict pumping lemma which implies not regular. Here is what I mean.
For pumping lemma first we have to take w only in the language [here language is just '010] So w='010' I choose k = 2 then new string is w=x(y^k)z has length more than 3 so it is definitely not '010' which means this language is not Regular!
What am I missing?
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if alphabet is {0,1}, then is string '010' regular?
I think it is regular because DFA and Regular languages are equivalent and this string has a DFA but at the same time it seems to contradict pumping lemma which implies not regular. Here is what I mean.
For pumping lemma first we have to take w only in the language [here language is just '010] So w='010' I choose k = 2 then new string is w=x(y^k)z has length more than 3 so it is definitely not '010' which means this language is not Regular!
What am I missing?
formal-languages regular-languages finite-automata
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if alphabet is {0,1}, then is string '010' regular?
I think it is regular because DFA and Regular languages are equivalent and this string has a DFA but at the same time it seems to contradict pumping lemma which implies not regular. Here is what I mean.
For pumping lemma first we have to take w only in the language [here language is just '010] So w='010' I choose k = 2 then new string is w=x(y^k)z has length more than 3 so it is definitely not '010' which means this language is not Regular!
What am I missing?
formal-languages regular-languages finite-automata
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Being regular is a property of languages, not of words.
However, it seems that by '010' you really mean the language consisting only of the single word '010', that is, ${ 010 }$. This language, just like any other finite language, is regular.
Where does your pumping lemma proof fail, then? Here is a complete statement of the pumping lemma.
If $L$ is a regular language then there exists a constant $n$ such that for all words $w in L$ of length at least $n$ there is a decomposition $w = xyz$, where $|xy| leq n$ and $y neq epsilon$, such that $xy^iz in L$ for all $i geq 0$.
Your argument is ignoring the constant $n$, which could be larger than the length of all words in $L$.
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Being regular is a property of languages, not of words.
However, it seems that by '010' you really mean the language consisting only of the single word '010', that is, ${ 010 }$. This language, just like any other finite language, is regular.
Where does your pumping lemma proof fail, then? Here is a complete statement of the pumping lemma.
If $L$ is a regular language then there exists a constant $n$ such that for all words $w in L$ of length at least $n$ there is a decomposition $w = xyz$, where $|xy| leq n$ and $y neq epsilon$, such that $xy^iz in L$ for all $i geq 0$.
Your argument is ignoring the constant $n$, which could be larger than the length of all words in $L$.
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Being regular is a property of languages, not of words.
However, it seems that by '010' you really mean the language consisting only of the single word '010', that is, ${ 010 }$. This language, just like any other finite language, is regular.
Where does your pumping lemma proof fail, then? Here is a complete statement of the pumping lemma.
If $L$ is a regular language then there exists a constant $n$ such that for all words $w in L$ of length at least $n$ there is a decomposition $w = xyz$, where $|xy| leq n$ and $y neq epsilon$, such that $xy^iz in L$ for all $i geq 0$.
Your argument is ignoring the constant $n$, which could be larger than the length of all words in $L$.
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Being regular is a property of languages, not of words.
However, it seems that by '010' you really mean the language consisting only of the single word '010', that is, ${ 010 }$. This language, just like any other finite language, is regular.
Where does your pumping lemma proof fail, then? Here is a complete statement of the pumping lemma.
If $L$ is a regular language then there exists a constant $n$ such that for all words $w in L$ of length at least $n$ there is a decomposition $w = xyz$, where $|xy| leq n$ and $y neq epsilon$, such that $xy^iz in L$ for all $i geq 0$.
Your argument is ignoring the constant $n$, which could be larger than the length of all words in $L$.
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Being regular is a property of languages, not of words.
However, it seems that by '010' you really mean the language consisting only of the single word '010', that is, ${ 010 }$. This language, just like any other finite language, is regular.
Where does your pumping lemma proof fail, then? Here is a complete statement of the pumping lemma.
If $L$ is a regular language then there exists a constant $n$ such that for all words $w in L$ of length at least $n$ there is a decomposition $w = xyz$, where $|xy| leq n$ and $y neq epsilon$, such that $xy^iz in L$ for all $i geq 0$.
Your argument is ignoring the constant $n$, which could be larger than the length of all words in $L$.
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